Nurturing The Next Generation Of Educators and Dentists with Dr. Sameer Puri, DDS

Host: Ladies and gentlemen, this is the dental podcast brought to you by Keating Dental Lab, a full service, award-winning dental laboratory. Each week you’ll learn tips and techniques from real-world dentists bringing you in-depth interviews, motivating stories, current events, and sports. Here’s your host, Shaun Keating. Shaun Keating: Hey everyone, Shaun here. Welcome to another episode of the Dental Up Podcast. Our guest this week graduated from the University of Southern California School of Dentistry and obtained an advanced education in gentle dentistry residency from the University of Tennessee. He’s the director of the CAD Cam division at Spear Education and is in charge of the website of cerecdoctors.com. Currently residing from Scottsdale, Arizona, please welcome back Dr. Sameer Puri, DDS. How’s it going, Dr. Puri? Dr. Sameer Puri: Good, Shaun. How are you, buddy? Shaun Keating: Oh, baby, I’m doing fantastic, man. I can’t thank you enough for coming back on. You were like one of the highest rated podcasts. I think we had a million downloads with you, baby. Dr. Sameer Puri: You got a pretty pathetic other guests then, because that’s pretty sad if I’m the highest one. We need to up your guests here, man. Shaun Keating: Come on, man. You’re so humble, dude. You’re a legend of dental world and you’re young still, but you’ve accomplished quite a bit. Dr. Sameer Puri: Shaun, when I first met you I was young. I’m almost- You won’t believe how old I am now. Shaun Keating: What, 43? Dr. Sameer Puri: I’ll be 48 in two weeks, so I’m up there. Shaun Keating: I wish I was 48 again. I was about- Dr. Sameer Puri: I know, but when I met you I think I was- Shaun Keating: Yeah, you were- Dr. Sameer Puri: … I was in my 20s? Shaun Keating: Yeah. I remember you guys were so funny- Dr. Sameer Puri: Late- Yeah. Shaun Keating: … at those meetings. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah, yeah. So, it’s been a while. It’s been a while. How are you doing? How’s the lab business doing? You guys killing it? Shaun Keating: We are just killing it, blowing up, setting records every month, man. We’re just so blessed. I just can’t believe it. I can’t put my finger on it. My doctors are just all busy and booming these last two years. It’s crazy. Dr. Sameer Puri: That’s fantastic. Shaun Keating: It’s just unbelievable and yeah. It’s just- And we got a bunch of good doctors. It’s tough. Every month you might get some new doctors in back in the day and it was like guys that are shopping and bouncing lab to lab. It seems to work that with the ones we’ve been getting lately here, they’re real keepers, and they do good impressions, and they really want to do great. I just love that. I hate the guys that bounce around. And I get that, I get it. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. I think our respective businesses, our communities, I should say, are probably very similar. I think we value the same type of people to be a part of our lives. Shaun Keating: Yes. Dr. Sameer Puri: We want to help anyone and everyone that we can, but at the end of the day we value those people that value us. Shaun Keating: Absolutely. Dr. Sameer Puri: So, that’s how you built your lab and that’s how we built our community. We’re very pleased, and happy, and blessed to be where we are and I’m sure you feel the same way. Shaun Keating: Oh, totally. Totally. We all learned together way back in the day. It was such a dynamic thing with Dental Town. I look at Facebook now and I kind of over it after going through all the Dental Town … That was before Facebook basically and all that, but what a community for us to be allowed to come in, some of these dental technicians, because it was a dentist type forum, but other people in the dental industry got in it; but it was just such a neat thing. I learned so much just reading all the dental threads and all you guys, what you went through and just the openness of how you guys practice. You saved so many dentists so many years of struggles in the trenches with just trial and error that they could go on Dental Town and ask this, this, this, and go to this thread or this thread, and you were one of the leaders of it, man. I remember laughing to myself thinking, “What’s this dude? He such a good freaking dentist,” because you came to my lab and did an over the shoulders, you and Tarun, and it was just awesome. Dr. Sameer Puri: That was a lot of fun. Shaun Keating: Yeah, but- Dr. Sameer Puri: That was a lot of fun. Shaun Keating: That was so bitching, dude. We just blew that patient out of the chair with what we did. We did a four through 13 and it was all- Dr. Sameer Puri: I look back on that, I don’t know, I was what, 30, 31- Shaun Keating: Yeah. Dr. Sameer Puri: … or something and I was just like, “What the hell were we thinking just doing live patient overnight.” Shaun Keating: Yep. Dr. Sameer Puri: It was a lot of fun. Things have obviously evolved over the last 20 years, but that was where it all started, and I still … I just spoke with Tarun two days ago, or three days ago. We were just exchanging text messages. We saying, “Hey, we haven’t chatted in a while, let’s get together for dinner.” I’ve had some really good friends and partners over the years, and there’s been some bad ones, but all in all it’s been a great ride. Shaun Keating: Totally, dude. But back to the thing with CEREC, I remember that was when you were doing CEREC when no one else was doing it, and it’s probably around a little bit before you, I’m not sure how long it was, but you’re the one that made that name. Dude, that’s radical. We have a- For our listeners out there, if you hear some funky, weird sounds, I have my parking lot being stripped and redone, and they have to do it in sections. So, forgot about it today, but we might hear some loud stuff. We’ll see if my- Dr. Sameer Puri: I actually didn’t hear that, so I think we’re good. Shaun Keating: All right. Dr. Sameer Puri: Nothing came up, came through on my end. Shaun Keating: That’s awesome. Okay. Dr. Sameer Puri: With regards to CEREC, Shaun, what is been your guys’ experience with receiving digital impressions? Has it become more and more? Are you getting less and less impressions, physical impressions being sent in, or is it still a significant amount? Shaun Keating: It’s unbelievable blowing up, dude, with the digital. Like I said before when we talked, CEREC in the beginning was tough for me to accept and then after I saw what it was about and a lot of onesies, twosies, this and that, and its evolved even more now, but it was something that my best doctors are my CEREC doctors and my three shape and [iTero 00:06:11] guys. They just are giving me the best preps and now it’s so dang easy. We’re up to probably about 40% digital coming in. 30, 40%. It’s- Dr. Sameer Puri: Oh, wow. Shaun Keating: It’s getting more and more. It’s just so freaking accurate and so amazing. I’m just so thankful because my job is so much easier. We’re just getting stuff that is so accurate and with the stuff being monolithic and/or your other zirconias or even [inaudible 00:06:38] there’s a lot less breakage, if any. It’s just a neat, neat thing, man. Those CEREC doctors and all the digital doctors, they’re just amazing with the talent they get, and it takes a while. I remember some of our guys were the best impressions and they got into it, and it took them a couple months to really get it. Then they had to get into your cerecdoctors.com. That is a really great program you got that if you get a CEREC, I would get into that and pay the whatever it costs because it’s going to come back tenfold to you to get the tips and techniques that you don’t have to go in there and practice for a few years to get it done. You can go on in a few months or a few weeks probably and really dial things in. What an amazing [crosstalk 00:07:24] journey. Dr. Sameer Puri: I’ve been involved now … I got my CEREC in 2003, late 2003, and the learning curve is definitely changed and the people that we’re seeing now … So, last year in calendar year 2018 we had 2,000 people come in for CEREC training. Shaun Keating: No kidding. Dr. Sameer Puri: That’s just CEREC. Now, CEREC Doctors is a part of Spear Education, but we run the businesses separately. Shaun Keating: Okay. Dr. Sameer Puri: … but between the two we had a bout 10,000 people come into our campus here in Scottsdale. Shaun Keating: Unbelievable. Dr. Sameer Puri: Last year we also opened up a east coast facility with partnership with [inaudible 00:08:07], so our CEREC numbers are going to grow. Things have changed. It used to be that you had to be a little out there to go out and do CEREC and go through the learning curve. Now, like you said, 40% of your impressions that you’re getting are digital. We’re seeing more and more people jump onto the CAD cam bandwagon and- Shaun Keating: Yes. Dr. Sameer Puri: … I think you said it correctly. The labs were real intimidating at first, but now you realize you’re never going to get rid of a laboratory relationship. Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: And all the lectures and workshops and everything that I do, I always talk about it that your lab is your friend. You’re going to do a lot of this stuff chairside now with your systems, but you’re not going to get rid of your lab. It’s just the relationship’s going to change. It’s going to evolve. So, I’ve enjoyed it. I’ve enjoyed the process. I’ve enjoyed seeing how the technology has evolved. Now with the new prime scan it’s just a game changer in terms of the accuracy and how the good the software is for the basic stuff and how we’re starting to use it more and more and more for more advanced stuff, but that lab relationship’s not going to change. Shaun Keating: I don’t think so. Dr. Sameer Puri: That’s something- Shaun Keating: You know- Dr. Sameer Puri: … no, it can’t. Shaun Keating: You know what made me feel so good? It was really cool, man. I got to meet Dr. Spear at the Cal Ad meeting. It was the neatest thing. I never heard the guy speak, and what a humble dude and just a down to earth … I thought he’d be all haughty, you know, like some of these lecturers. They get up there and they’re all that. He seemed really down to earth. I liked to see that he wasn’t all slim and trim like a male model. No, I’m just kidding. He looked and sounded like I didn’t even realize he was like that. He was just so down to earth and he broke it down the dentist and lab relationship, what he forecasts and what he sees, and he had some great numbers. He talked so highly of working with the lab division even, too, with the CEREC’s and all that. He goes, like you just said, you’re always going to need your lab and he sees the growth in this field and the whole prospect of across the line of lab services. Shaun Keating: I wasn’t real happy when I was thinking he was going to come in, he was going to- He pumped us all up and went through- Dr. Sameer Puri: He’s one of the best speakers I’ve ever seen. I obviously have a chance to work with him and have gotten to know him fairly well. Anytime he’s lecturing I usually pop in the back of the room and just take my computer and I’ve got other work to catch up on, I’ll sit in the back and just listen. I’m a perpetual student and he is just amazing. Shaun Keating: Yeah. Dr. Sameer Puri: For anyone listening, if you … When I got out of school, learning to do large, comprehensive cases, I did a lot of CE my first two years. I think I had 300, 400 hours of CE- Shaun Keating: Dang. Dr. Sameer Puri: … my first couple of years out. So, I learned a lot from a lot of different people, but everybody said things a little bit differently. Frank was the first guy who broke it down that I was just like, “Oh, my God. This makes so much sense.” For example, you’re doing a full mouth rehab and people relate to this. I had one doctor said, “I always start with the lower anterior, and then I do everything else.” And another doctors says, “Well, you got to build up the bite in the back, and then you do the anterior.” Another guys said, “Well, you always do the front, and then you build up …” Everybody’s got their way of doing things and I was like, “All right, I guess I can see that view point, that view point.” I sat through Frank Spears treating the worn [inaudible 00:11:43] class where he talks about worn teeth, why they wear. It was just mind blowing, mind blowing to me, and for your audience, I’ll break it down in a nutshell, and I’m not going to do it justice. Dr. Sameer Puri: He says you treat always with the aesthetics. We have a course here called FGTP Facially Generated Treatment Plan. It always starts with the aesthetics, and it goes back to denture principles. Now again, I’m, breaking down a three-day workshop in about two seconds here, but that made so much sense to me. I’m like, “Yeah, because if it does …” I don’t care how well it functions, but if the teeth are crooked and everything’s sideways, what’s the point of doing the rehab? We do the rehab for cosmetics reasons, but we also do it for functional reasons, so it’s got to satisfy both. It was amazing just to learn from that. And Obviously, we take the information that we learn and we try to apply it to the world of CEREC education; but for us, our growth has been interesting in the sense that we’re not just doing CEREC workshops anymore. We’re doing [inaudible 00:12:51] workshops. We’re treating how to restore implants, and we’re looking at a bunch of different things where people keep asking us to do workshops, and it’s been fun. It’s been a lot of fun. Shaun Keating: Oh, I’ll bet. I hear so many great things and I have a lot of my dentists that I talk to and I always tell them Spear [inaudible 00:13:07], but Spear … You guys even have a practice management thing that you’re doing now, too, don’t you on [crosstalk 00:13:13]. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. It’s called- Shaun Keating: I think that’s huge. Dr. Sameer Puri: … Spear Practice- Yeah, Spear Practice Solutions. So, the way that evolved was our history was that Mercer was the original predecessor to our company Spear. Shaun Keating: Okay. Dr. Sameer Puri: My good friend and CEO at the time, [inaudible 00:13:31] [Asmanji 00:13:31] was the CEO of Mercer, and he had an idea. What they were, they were a consulting company and they did money management. So, they would manage your practice, help you grow the practice, and then their money management arm would manage your money, invest it, and when you have an investment manager there’s a small fee associated with it. They would charge a fee and that was their revenue model. [inaudible 00:13:55] idea was, “Hey, listen. We can help you and your practice, but you just need to be a better dentist, and how are we going to make you a better dentist is through education.” So, he opened up, what at that time was called The Scottsdale Center for Dentistry. The Scottsdale Center for Dentistry spun off, they sold Mercer and they started this education business, which changed its name to Spear. In fact, I was the first instructor here back in 2007 when we started doing our CEREC classes. Dr. Sameer Puri: So, that has grown over the years to what we are today. And like I mentioned, we have about 10,000 people a year come through our workshops. Shaun Keating: That’s so awesome. Dr. Sameer Puri: And as you can imagine, we have some long-time doctors that have been coming and what they said was, “This is great. My clinical skills are better than ever. I really have a good foundation in what I am teaching or what I’m practicing, but I need help running my practice.” We had more and more and more people ask us about the business management of things and it just took a while that we came to our senses said, “Hey, let’s start a practice management program.” It’s grown and we’ve had doctors basically double their practices because it’s different. We have a consulting platform, but we tie into your practice management systems so there’s a consultant that’s not in your office, which is only effective when they’re in your office; but we are monitoring your practice six days, seven days a week. What ends up happening is that we have doctors that are constantly getting feedback and we have this whole series of courses for your staff, you, that you can come and take as many courses as you want here at the center and it’s all part of the fee, [crosstalk 00:15:42] of the consulting fee. Shaun Keating: Unbeliev- And I hear your online, you got second to none, an online program that’s just unbelievable that you can go that way, too, or you can do them hand in hand; but- Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. Shaun Keating: Tell me a little bit about the online. It goes across the board. You’ve got how many hours? There’s so much on there. I’ve got a few guys that- Dr. Sameer Puri: Between our companies we have two basic platforms. We have CEREC Doctors and we have Spear Education. The consulting platform is a part of Spear Education. On the CEREC website we focus on CEREC related procedures. How do I restore a crown? How do I do a bridge, veneers, implant crowns, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera? Spear, we have basically all of the other disciplines that’s not product related. We’re not really tied into any products, we just teach concepts of it. So, between the two, I think we’re one of probably the top two or three most trafficked dental websites in the world. Shaun Keating: I’ll bet. Dr. Sameer Puri: … between Spear Education and cerecdoctors.com. I’d have to check the exact stats [crosstalk 00:16:51]- Shaun Keating: That’s huge. I bet. Dr. Sameer Puri: … fact checkers out there. Don’t check me on my fake news, but we are one of the top. Shaun Keating: Oh, I bet. Now, it is. What do you find with … Are you getting mostly younger dentists? Are you getting middle of the road guys, older guys? What do you see as your demographic? Dr. Sameer Puri: Everyone. Shaun Keating: Everyone, okay. Yeah, that’s [crosstalk 00:17:11]. Dr. Sameer Puri: Everyone. Shaun Keating: I try to talk my younger dentist, it’s so important just to get the education and just learn from the right guys, and it’ll come back to you. A lot of them can’t afford, they say, and I say, “You can’t afford not to.” It’s just so important. Then I got guys that say, “Yeah, we’re flying out to Scottsdale, and Scottsdale’s quite the destination now. It’s just so beautiful and there’s so much money and tech out there, but it’s beautiful. I love going out- Like I told you before. I got out to that Barrett-Jackson every time. I just love- Dr. Sameer Puri: Listen, next time you come to Barrett-Jackson you’ve got to let me know because I live a mile from where they have it, [crosstalk 00:17:49] but Barrett-Jackson auction is actually the worst one. We got to take you to Gooding’s and Bonham’s and that Sotheby’s. That’s where the real cars for ballers like you are. Shaun Keating: Yeah. [crosstalk 00:17:58] I want to go there. Dr. Sameer Puri: The Bear Jackson has all the … If I see another resto-mod Corvette I’m going to throw up. Shaun Keating: I know. Dr. Sameer Puri: That’s what Barrett-Jackson is, but if you want the classic Shelby’s and the Ferrari’s and the Porsche’s, and the Bugatti’s, that’s basically going to be the other, Bonham’s and Gooding’s, those are just amazing. Shaun Keating: They have those out in Scottsdale, too? Dr. Sameer Puri: Barrett-Jackson has five … What was that? Shaun Keating: They have them out at Scottsdale, too, those? Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s all the same week. Shaun Keating: Oh, you’re kidding. I never knew that. Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s all the same week. Yeah. So, you go to Bear Jackson on- you pick a day, like a Thursday, and then Friday is Bonham’s, Saturday is Gooding’s, Saturday afternoon is Sotheby. So, they all have it timed. Shaun Keating: Oh, perfect. Dr. Sameer Puri: There’s Russo and Steele. Barrett-Jackson is the most famous, but it’s actually the worst one. Shaun Keating: Yeah, well, it’s [crosstalk 00:18:49]- Yeah. Dr. Sameer Puri: I’m going to take you … Huh? Shaun Keating: You’ve got all your trucks and all your- I always have to wait until when I tape them when I don’t go, I got to wait until the night time so the top cars are there because I just forward fast it until I get to the good cars, too. Dr. Sameer Puri: Oh, yeah. Shaun Keating: Like you said, I want to go see the nice ones. So, I know [crosstalk 00:19:07]- Dr. Sameer Puri: Going to Barrett-Jackson, if you were to come and you say, “Hey, take me to Barrett-Jackson,” that’s like you telling me, “Hey, take me for a really good burger at McDonald’s.” Yeah, they got burgers there, but if you want a really good burger there’s plenty of other places where I can take you for a good burger. Shaun Keating: Oh, I know, man. I hear that. It’s like at Pebble Beach. They have it all week and I try to get my wife to go this coming up in August. I got some Ferrari buddies of mine that [crosstalk 00:19:31]- Dr. Sameer Puri: I am going. Shaun Keating: Are you really? [crosstalk 00:19:33] my wife Dr. Sameer Puri: A group of there’s eight of us that we’re going and we got three or four days there. We got the passes to all the different cars- Shaun Keating: Can you believe that? Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. Shaun Keating: I was supposed to be going but- Dr. Sameer Puri: I love cars [crosstalk 00:19:43]- Shaun Keating: … my birthday weekend and my wife’s like, “I’m not going to the cars on your birthday weekend. We’re going to Maui.” And I’m like, “Ugh, gosh.” But it’s like I want to go. It’s so neat and my neighbors are all a little than me, but they’re into it and they got all the passes to all the- And they’ve been going, like the dude has it from 1981. He’s been going every year. Dr. Sameer Puri: Oh, yeah? Shaun Keating: He gets [crosstalk 00:20:04] a group of 10 couples and makes a whole week of it almost. We just drive down there and stuff. It’s pretty cool, man. You know, you used to live down in this area. It’s fun driving- Dr. Sameer Puri: Oh, yeah. Shaun Keating: … down to Monterrey and all that stuff, but I love it. Even the dude, Jackson, I love his car collection. He has a big circle and then he has his Bugatti in the middle of it, and it’s one of the older Veyron’s, but I think he said he has the most miles of any Bugatti Veyron out there. He’s got 150,000 miles on it. He drives it, and I just [crosstalk 00:20:43]. Dr. Sameer Puri: I actually drove a Bugatti Veyron just last week. Shaun Keating: No way. Dr. Sameer Puri: The car is amazing. So, a friend- Shaun Keating: I want one so bad. Dr. Sameer Puri: … of a friend- Shaun Keating: My wife’s like [crosstalk 00:20:53]- Dr. Sameer Puri: … friend of a friend has one, and he let me drive it, and I was just like, “Holy …” So, I didn’t open it up or anything, but here’s something that the audience may not know about the Bugatti Veyron. They made 450 of them. I think they’re about a million, a million-five at that time, and they held their value decently, but if you want to do an oil change on a Bugatti Veyron, it’s a $30,000 oil change. If you want to change a tire, one tire is $40,000 to change. So, the maintenance on those cars is what it costs to buy a Honda Accord. It’s just nuts. So, even if I had the money to buy a Bugatti, I’d be like, “You know- Shaun Keating: Oh, I know. Dr. Sameer Puri: … maybe I ought to buy something else that’s just a little bit cheaper.” Shaun Keating: That’s when you’ve got F U money. Dr. Sameer Puri: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Shaun Keating: Some day I’ll have that [crosstalk 00:21:43] F U money. Dr. Sameer Puri: You don’t care. Shaun Keating: I know. Dr. Sameer Puri: And there’s plenty of that where you live. There’s plenty of that around here. It’s just some people are smart with their money, some people just have fun with their money, and some people are just stupid with their money. Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: There’s different ways to spend money. Shaun Keating: Oh, I know. And it’s like the people with the yachts. I got a pretty big ass boat and just to fill it up is $8,000, $10,000 for a fill up. It’s 1,600 gallons. It’s just nuts. Dr. Sameer Puri: Okay, but see Shaun, so I would put you in the category of you have fun with your money. Shaun Keating: Yeah, oh yeah. Nah. Dr. Sameer Puri: You basically said, “I have a pretty big boat.” So, you enjoy the boating lifestyle. Shaun Keating: Yep. Dr. Sameer Puri: You go out, you have fun, there’s not a price tag you can put on the amount of enjoyment that it brings you and your family. Shaun Keating: Yeah. Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: But you’re not stupid and buying a 300 foot yacht that sits empty 90% of the time- Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: … and you use it once a year. The maintenance costs are a million dollars a year even if you don’t even step foot in it. Shaun Keating: Oh, it’s nuts. It’s so crazy. And- Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. Shaun Keating: … I don’t get that. Even with mine, we don’t use it enough. I even get sea sick. I just love going sitting on it in the harbor and watching all the other boats, but we’re going to Catalina in the next weekend, I mean next … We’re going to go Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, or whatever and we go over there, put on over. We actually take the helicopter over [crosstalk 00:23:06]. Dr. Sameer Puri: Man, I need to come down and spend time on your boat with you. Shaun Keating: Yeah. My wife doesn’t like to, when it gets rough, we take the helicopter over. It takes 11 minutes from John Wayne Airport to Catalina, and then we just walk on our boat. Hey, take us around the island and that, drop us off, we’re going to go … I don’t even like to sleep on it. I like to sleep on land at the Metro pol. They got these big ‘ol houses on the boardwalk that I just like it. I can see- Dr. Sameer Puri: I love it. Shaun Keating: I couldn’t see myself getting a bigger boat. My old boss, he’s got these 180 footers, and he loves to take them up to Washington and I just not really into that. Then the same thing, too, with the private jets. Looked at those and it’s like, it’s so nuts to buy it. I was looking at the little Honda jet. My brother is working on the CEO of Honda Jet, and this Japanese guy, [inaudible 00:23:57] says actually his daughter is the CEO and she hooked us up to John Wayne to go through and look at these [inaudible 00:24:06]. They’re like four of five million dollars, and they’re the small class that holds four or five people. Pretty bitching concept. They got the engines on the wings and it took a long time it patented. I went in this thing and I’m getting bigger. I’m 250 and I couldn’t barely get through the middle hallway to get through the seats. “I’m like, I don’t like this.” My wife was with me and one of my sons. Shaun Keating: We’re in there and they’re talking to us about it, and we got in and sit in the seats, and I got claustrophobic in that little thing. I’m thinking, Five million dollars. I don’t need it.” But then you can do fractional and all that. We don’t fly enough. If I was going back east all time … I go to Vegas a lot, so I get on that Jet Suite X and that’s so fun. You can get a private- Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah, that’s actually, that’s not that … That’s relatively reasonable. It’s just a little bit more than a Southwest ticket. Shaun Keating: Exactly. It’s $200.00 each way or $300.00 each way, but yet you get a car on the tarmac, you have your limo come pick you up, whatever. It’s like you can get there 10 minutes before it takes off. You don’t have to go through security. It’s so bitching, but they got it out at Burbank and a few other places, but yeah, pretty- Dr. Sameer Puri: So, you’re like me. You’re smart with your money. We built a house about four years ago here in Scottsdale. I put at home theater in and like every other home theater in the country, it gets used 5% of the time, and my wife is still pissed at me for spending all the money on the home theater. She’s like it’s just an empty room that just nobody goes in and you’re like, “Why’d you put a home theater in?” I’m like, “Whatever. I enjoyed it. That was my thing.” I spend the money on it, but now I’m converting it into a golf simulator. Shaun Keating: Yeah. That’s- Dr. Sameer Puri: I used to play a lot of golf. It’s too hot in the summer’s here in Arizona, but we have amazing golf, so I’m just going to convert it into a golf simulator. I’m going to rip out the seats and put a golf simulator. So, these things, they’re a little pricey, but one of the options was you can get a camera so that I can record you and you can watch your swing. Shaun Keating: Oh, yeah. Totally. Dr. Sameer Puri: And that was six grand or something. The guy’s trying to sell me on this camera to add so I can view my swing. I’m like, “Well, I can view it, but what the hell am I looking at? I’m not an instructor.” Shaun Keating: Yeah, exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: I said, “I can go to my local PGA Tour Superstore, take a lesson for $50.00 and basically take 100 lessons for the amount it would take to put that camera in- Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: … that I don’t even know what the hell I’m looking at.” Shaun Keating: But that camera, you can go- Dr. Sameer Puri: You got to be smart with your money. Shaun Keating: Yeah. You could do Pebble Beach, you could do all these courses. Those are amazing. It’s pretty fun. Dr. Sameer Puri: So, that’s my first course that we’re going to play is Pebble Beach when we get the simulator in. Shaun Keating: That is so … I really love that. I got into golf a little bit, too, and what do I do? I got down there and think, oh, you buy- You think if you buy the best equipment you’re going to better. You’re not. Dr. Sameer Puri: No. Shaun Keating: So, I got these PXG’s, and they’re called PXG’s and they’re- Dr. Sameer Puri: Oh, yeah. The PXG’s right down the street from me. Shaun Keating: Yeah, but dude, Parson Graham or whatever, he developed it. Some rich dude. He- Dr. Sameer Puri: So, he’s the guy that started GoDaddy. Shaun Keating: Oh, is he? Okay. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yes. Shaun Keating: Yeah, well, he went and took all the Ping employees, I guess, and went and started it, and they are sweet. I play [crosstalk 00:27:20]- Dr. Sameer Puri: Ping is about 30 minutes from my house, and then PXG is 10 minutes, their corporate place is. Bob Parsons, who started GoDaddy is now just owns half of Arizona, but PXG’s are bad ass, but I bought a new set of Pings that were $1,500 for the whole set. A set of PXG’s is $5,000. I’ll spend the $5,000, but not when I’m first starting out. I don’t want to be that jackass on the course with that, with the $5,000 clubs that can’t even hit the ball. Shaun Keating: And they all look me, man. I’ll come rolling up in my Ferrari then I get my PXG’s. They go … They love to watch the dumb dude that bought the PXGs that can’t blow off a- It’s embarrassing. I almost want to get a different bag so they don’t say PXG and it’s not such a [crosstalk 00:28:05]. Dr. Sameer Puri: No, no, no. You just need to practice more. Shaun Keating: Yeah. Dr. Sameer Puri: You come over to Scottsdale we’ll hit on my golf simulator and we’ll get you good. Shaun Keating: No, I know. It does. It really does. Like anything in life, even your dentistry, what you put into it you get out, and I just don’t put enough time into it. I’m pretty good short game guy because I had a big golf course in my backyard, a seven putting area, but short game’s pretty good but my long game is just so erratic, but I have fun. I go out there, they call me Easy Money, and it’s basically I get two shots per hole. They give me a 36 handicap, the most you can get. I can get into the game with them then, all these guys that are golfing 70s and 80s, and I’m out there breaking 100 barely, but yet I get two strokes. So, it works. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. I picked it up about two months ago and so I’ve been playing a little bit here and there, but my goal is by this time next year I’m a 10 handicap. So, that’s- Shaun Keating: There you go. Dr. Sameer Puri: … that’s my goal. Shaun Keating: You know, with you- Dr. Sameer Puri: We’ll see- Shaun Keating: … you’ll do it- Dr. Sameer Puri: … if I get there. Shaun Keating: … because you’ve always been that way. I’ve always admired you. Whenever you put your mind to something you just excel and you always seem like you’re ahead of the game in whatever you do, man. Seriously. Dr. Sameer Puri: I don’t know about that, my friend. Shaun Keating: Yeah, you’re very [crosstalk 00:29:24] talented in whatever you do. Even with you and T-Bone. T-Bone was a good talker. You had the hands, you could talk, too, but he [crosstalk 00:29:34]. Dr. Sameer Puri: T-Bone is a good talker. Shaun Keating: He is. Dr. Sameer Puri: T-Bone is a good talker. Shaun Keating: I see him on his podcast. He has a podcast. He built it into his office. He’s got a couch and I think he’s got a rotisserie and a barbecuer right there. It reminds me of one of the ESPN podcasts. It’s pretty cool. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. I’ll be honest with you, I don’t listen to a lot of podcasts, and I think I’m one of the last ones out there that doesn’t, but I do catch a few here and there. It’s just I don’t know. Shaun Keating: Yeah, I hear you. Dr. Sameer Puri: Too busy doing other stuff and- Shaun Keating: Nah. Dr. Sameer Puri: … watching my news and all that other crap that’s going on in the world. Shaun Keating: I see, though, with your family on Facebook and stuff, and your daughters. I remember when those girls weren’t even born, and now they’re all … It reminds me of Barack and his wife with the daughters growing up. It reminds me with you and your family. You’re like the president in a way and to see you guys grown. They’re so beautiful. They’ve gotten older, and your wife’s- Dr. Sameer Puri: My girls are- Shaun Keating: … beautiful. Dr. Sameer Puri: … my girls are amazing. Shaun Keating: It’s just [crosstalk 00:30:36]. Dr. Sameer Puri: That’s the one thing I’m proud of and I had nothing to do with it. It was all my wife. Shaun Keating: Yeah. She’s a good one, too. Dr. Sameer Puri: I was always out working, so someone had to be home with girls. Shaun Keating: I hear that. Our wives are … A man is only as good as his wife, and my wife did the same thing with our two boys. I went to work all day and then I’d coach them at night for a few years before high school, but behind every great man is a greater woman. Dr. Sameer Puri: That’s absolutely correct. Shaun Keating: I love seeing you- Whenever I go out to the shows, I’m always with my wife and so are you. It’s like, yep, I love to see that. It’s good. Dr. Sameer Puri: Shaun, I’m very proud and you should be proud of that because I certainly am because you’ve seen this business and seen a lot of shady stuff in this business with divorces and stuff. You guys have been married how long now? Shaun Keating: 35 years, man. [crosstalk 00:31:27] Dr. Sameer Puri: There you go. There you go. That says a lot. There’s not too many of that these days. Shaun Keating: Yeah. It’s the truth. Dr. Sameer Puri: So, congrats to you on that. Shaun Keating: Oh, no. Thank you. Congratulations to you, too. So, dude, tell me a little bit about the prime scan. That’s the big thing with you guys. You’re going up all over other big shots and all that. How’s it turning out? Are the people- Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s amazing. Shaun Keating: Is it? Tell me a little bit about it. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. It’s amazing. The Omni cam was great. This is great plus 10. It’s easy to use. It captures data. It’s super accurate for the studies that we’ve seen and the clinical results that we’ve seen. It’s here. I’ve been saying, “Oh, PBS is dead. PBS is dead.” In fact, I’ve got a meeting on Thursday with one of the industry folks and they want to talk about the status of PBS, and it’s going to be a five minute meeting as far as I’m concerned. Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: Here’s this scanner. Use it. Tell me why you think PBS is still applicable? It just makes the process so simple. CEREC red cam, blue cam, and all these things, all the iterations, they worked and they work great, but you had to learn out to use them. Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s the first scanner that I’ve used that you just pick it up and there’s no training for it. Shaun Keating: No [crosstalk 00:32:45]. Dr. Sameer Puri: Our workshops used to be, “Okay, let’s pick up the camera, hold it a certain way. You’ve got to scan a certain way.” Now it’s like pick up the camera and just take a picture. They’re like, “Which … Should I scan … Which way …” It doesn’t matter. Just scan. The accuracy of this scanner is just absolutely amazing, Shaun Keating: No kidding. That’s awesome. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. It’s been just blowing up in the CEREC world. I think it’s really blown up dentistry in general because it just makes it so easy now. Shaun Keating: No kidding. It’s only better for the industry when you get systems- Dr. Sameer Puri: Absolutely. Shaun Keating: … like that. You do got the big dental mafia dudes, the big companies with the impression, like the 3M’s and the Kettenbach’s What are you going to do when you really aren’t buying anymore? That’s a billion dollar plus industry. That could be by the wayside in another five, 10 years really as less and less [crosstalk 00:33:41]- Dr. Sameer Puri: 3M has been playing in the scanner market for 10 years and they just haven’t figured it out, unfortunately. Shaun Keating: Gosh. Dr. Sameer Puri: I think, obviously, with … CEREC is at the top. Three Shape has come on strong. iTero is a strong camera, but the 3M system just never really- Shaun Keating: No. Dr. Sameer Puri: … took off. Shaun Keating: It didn’t. Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s shocking with the amount of money that the company has that they weren’t able to make it work. Shaun Keating: Yeah, you would think. And they came in as the cheapest product in a way that it was the least amount cost wise, but then you could buy some more elements to it to [crosstalk 00:34:14] get it up there. I don’t know. It just … Dr. Sameer Puri: I don’t think … And maybe this is my perception, but I just don’t think people are looking for the cheapest scanner out there. I think they’re looking for stuff that works and is predictable. If you look at the most successful systems out there, they’re not the cheapest. Shaun Keating: Yeah, exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: I don’t know if cost is the driving factor that someone wants to get into digital impressions because it’s probably cheaper to just keep doing what you’re doing with impression. Shaun Keating: Oh, yeah. And especially, too, with having to still powder in the mouth and all that. That’s kind of old [crosstalk 00:34:48]. Do that anymore. Dr. Sameer Puri: They’re way behind with that technology. Shaun Keating: That’s amazing, though. What a trip. What about with dentistry? Are you cutting many teeth still? Are you doing much dentistry? Dr. Sameer Puri: I see a few- Shaun Keating: Are you teaching? Dr. Sameer Puri: … patients here or there, but I’ve definitely slowed down. I’ve just been so busy on behind the scene stuff, but I have a very small practice here in Scottsdale at our center, so I see patients about once a week or so; but it’s not to the level that I was certainly doing before. This is one of the reason I’ve got a whole crew that we’re in the process of nurturing and growing as the next faculty here because I’m not going to teach forever. In fact, I used to teach every class. I teach one class now. Shaun Keating: Beautiful. Dr. Sameer Puri: Then after that it’s we’ve got some amazing instructors who are better than me, and quite frankly, they do a much better job than I do, and that’s how it should be. You should set yourself up where your successor is improving on the things that you’ve done. Shaun Keating: Oh, absolutely. Dr. Sameer Puri: As much as I’ve been in the limelight and the spotlight it’s not by design. It’s just happened and I’m happy to be in the background putting wind in the sails of my partners here- Shaun Keating: Oh, absolutely. Dr. Sameer Puri: … and making sure that they have super success. Shaun Keating: That’s what it’s all about. Even my people I surround- They’re 10 times better of a tech than I ever was and its just working smarter and not harder. As you get older you got to pass that baton and you just watch it grow and it’s amazing how it can come back and just things are so much better in a way, and it’s- Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. Shaun Keating: – like you can enjoy life a little bit more and enjoy the profession a little bit more, too, I think. Dr. Sameer Puri: I think, Shaun, you hit the nail on the head. I’m in the same position as you where you obviously had skills to start[inaudible 00:36:44] and you’ve been, obviously, very successful in how you’ve been able to grow your company. I’ve been very lucky with the team that I’ve had around me that I’ve helped to grow it as well, but I also know that I was able to do certain things very well, but going to the next level, it’s got to be someone else. It’s not about me, so I’m stepping back. In fact, I used to lecture and I was on the road every week doing some lecture somewhere. I’ve probably turned down in the last couple of years over 200, $250,000 in honorariums. Shaun Keating: Can you believe that? Yeah. Dr. Sameer Puri: It sounds crazy- Shaun Keating: No, I know. Dr. Sameer Puri: … because I don’t want to do it. I just don’t want to travel anymore. I’ve missed enough time away from the family. I don’t care about the money, I just want that time where on a Friday night I can take my wife out to dinner instead of sitting on some random airport somewhere and wake up in the morning on Saturday and hang out as a family and have brunch instead of preparing for the talk in the morning and then rushing to the airport to come home. I’ve done it. It’s over. Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s time for me to focus on the next phase of my career which is to help nurture the next generation of educators. Shaun Keating: That’s so true, and that’s so right to be able to sit back and smell the roses in a way. We work so hard. I’ve been at this 36 years, and it’s just like I love it, but it’s nice to go home and to be able to go home and sit on my- Dr. Sameer Puri: Put it away. Shaun Keating: … easy chair at 4:00 and wait until about 5:30 to tell the wife, “Let’s go out to dinner.” It’s a neat thing because we cut back all our travel and we used to do every show and all that. I used to get excited about the different restaurants, but the hotels … You hear it with rock stars and all this stuff. Touring is such a nightmare and it’s hard. Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s not fun. It’s hard. Shaun Keating: And for us, all these shows and remember when you guys did the Dental Town program every year, and all your lectures and all this stuff. It’s great, but you know what, yesterday’s history and tomorrow’s a mystery. We got today and you just to live it a little bit more- Dr. Sameer Puri: Well said. Shaun Keating: … with what’s around and it being the now kind of, you know? Like the people at the concert that got their phone up the whole freaking time. I’m like, “Put it away and enjoy this. Get in the now.” I love seeing you pulling back a little bit on that and let these other people step up and watch them- Dr. Sameer Puri: Absolutely. Shaun Keating: … flourish for sure. No, that’s awesome, dude. So, what about on your sports out there? Basketball? I didn’t hear anything much about the Phoenix Suns- Dr. Sameer Puri: No. Shaun Keating: … or anything. Dr. Sameer Puri: I don’t know if we talked about it last time, but a couple years ago I was training for the Iron Man and I had a bad accident on my bike. Shaun Keating: Oh, yeah. Dr. Sameer Puri: This was back in 2015, and I shattered my clavicle. Shaun Keating: Oh, that was right. Dr. Sameer Puri: … and had to have two different surgeries to have it fixed. So, that set me back, and then as I was recovering from that I went from swimming a mile in the pool, getting out and running 10 miles and being in the best shape of my life to after my surgery I couldn’t climb a flight of stairs without getting winded. Shaun Keating: Can you believe that? Dr. Sameer Puri: It just destroyed me. Then I recovered from that, started getting back to the gym, started working out again and I ruptured my Achilles tendon. Shaun Keating: Oh, you’re kidding. Dr. Sameer Puri: So, it’s been- Shaun Keating: That’s a nightmare. Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s been an interesting … Yeah, but now I’m fully recovered, knock on wood. No injuries. I workout every day. You guys have Orange Theory workouts? Shaun Keating: Yeah, yep. Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s a little gym in a box. You go for an hour, you’re done, boom, get out. It’s great. I do that three, four times a week. I ride my bike on my trainer. I play golf, so it’s just … I’m trying to stay active. As you get older it’s hard to keep that weight off. Shaun Keating: Ah, man. [crosstalk 00:40:32] You’re talking to the wrong guy here. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. Shaun Keating: But I see you. You look great and you can knock off the weight. I’ve never been on a diet, never tried to, but one of these days I am and I’m going to get into it. Dr. Sameer Puri: I lost 35 pounds earlier this year. I did Nutrisystem. Shaun Keating: I was thinking about that or this Keto thing, but the Nutrisystem comes in- Dr. Sameer Puri: Pick a plan. Pick a plan. Shaun Keating: Pick a plan. Dr. Sameer Puri: Nutrisystem, Jenny Craig, whatever. There’s a bu- They’re all the same, it’s just portion control. I did Nutrisystem. I will tell you, I followed it to a tee and I dropped 35 pounds. Shaun Keating: Can you have any bad days in the week? Can you do good four or five days- Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. Shaun Keating: … and then maybe a Friday, Saturday. Dr. Sameer Puri: You know what happens? You know happens? You start eating clean. In the beginning you have your cheat meals, and then you’re like yeah, you go out to dinner on a Friday night. Go eat whatever you want, but then you’re like, “You know I worked so hard this week and all of a sudden now I had that big fat meal and I just don’t feel good.” So, the next time you go, “Yeah, let’s go out, but maybe instead of a burger and fries I’ll do just a burger, skip the fries.” And then the next time you go, “You know what? Let me just have the burger skip the bun.” Then you’re like, “You know what, a salad with some chicken.” And you just change. [crosstalk 00:41:44] I did not feel deprived at all because part of the plan, you also have a bunch of snacks and desserts because I’ve got a sugar tooth. Instead of having a big ass bowl of ice cream, you have on scoop and you get used to it. So, I did not feel deprived at all. I honestly, I dropped 35 pounds. Shaun Keating: Dang. That’s awesome, dude. Dr. Sameer Puri: It was great. Shaun Keating: I know I could do it. I did it with smoking. I stopped after smoking for almost 30 years, and it was just all mental, and I went to a hypnotist- Dr. Sameer Puri: It’s mental. Shaun Keating: … and I, in one hour, I stopped. Never had an urge for it again, and it’s going on nine years. It was August 24- Dr. Sameer Puri: Good for you. Shaun Keating: … 2011. Dr. Sameer Puri: Good for you. Shaun Keating: But then I put on 40 pounds because now my new thing is, “Well, I don’t have time to smoke. Let’s go. Honey, let’s go eat.” Dr. Sameer Puri: Let’s go eat. Shaun Keating: Then I got the beer is my problem because I drink three or four at night. Beer days or whatever sports, but a beer is what’s ki- You can drink seven [crosstalk 00:42:43]- Dr. Sameer Puri: I love beer myself. I love beer myself. No, listen, just do it for a month. Just do it for a month. Shaun Keating: Yeah, I got to try it. Dr. Sameer Puri: Drop 10 pounds, you’ll feel great and then if you like it you do it for another month. Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dr. Sameer Puri: And I’m saying Nutrisystem, but it’s one of those food delivery plans. Shaun Keating: No, I looked at them. Yeah. Dr. Sameer Puri: Pick one. Shaun Keating: Pick one and it’s like me. You can’t just always do what you’ve always done because it’ll catch up to you. And as you get older it’s like yeah, I go to work for several hours. I sit at the office, go walk around the lab. Hey guys. I go home. I’ll sit down or I’ll go play my drums. I go out. It’s just you’ve got to move your body. So, I started walking recently where it’s a 1.1 mile walk. I go down [crosstalk 00:43:27]- Dr. Sameer Puri: There you go. Shaun Keating: Yeah, it’s a start, but you work hard all your life. I was always in great shape. I was doing back flips a few years back and now it’s like living like King Henry VII a little bit, but it’ll catch up to you. [crosstalk 00:43:39] I’m going to be looking like [crosstalk 00:43:39] him, too, real quick. Dr. Sameer Puri: … catch up to you. Yep. Shaun Keating: No, I need to do that because I won’t have tomorrow if I keep … You can’t just … You got to have some, yeah. I’m definitely going to look into that. I’ll wait until New Year’s though, right? No. Dr. Sameer Puri: Why? Why? Shaun Keating: Because it’s six months [crosstalk 00:43:58] out. Dr. Sameer Puri: Wait until this New Years, wait until the following New Years because it’ll be even better at that time. Shaun Keating: I know. That’s so stupid. Dr. Sameer Puri: Pick up the phone. Do it now. Shaun Keating: Yeah. I got a big dinner I’m going out to tonight and- Dr. Sameer Puri: Go to dinner. Go to dinner. There’s nothing wrong- You can- Listen, if you have- I’ll use this as an example. You have a big ass dinner and you go out seven nights a week, do you think that it’s better to just do that six nights a week? Shaun Keating: No, no, I hear you, man. I totally hear you. Dr. Sameer Puri: And then five nights a week? So, one or two nights a week, go to town. Go out, go to dinner. Drink as much as you want, eat as much as you want. The other four or five nights, hey, just go a little easy. Shaun Keating: No, that’s what I’m doing now. I got three bad … We started Thursday, Friday, Saturday. All the other days momma cooks and everything else, but I think with me it’s just I need to exercise more and I need to cut back on the beer some, because it is what it is. I’ve never tried it, but whenever I’m put my mind to something I can do anything. I’m totally- Dr. Sameer Puri: I know you can. You can do it. Shaun Keating: Yeah. I can do it. Dr. Sameer Puri: You can absolutely do it. Shaun Keating: I just don’t want to do it. God, I’ve quit all those vices I’ve had all these years and I’m living a great life, I just now, I’m excited about freaking big ‘ol fat lobsters, and crab legs, and prime rib. Hey, let’s try the scallops with it, too. Throw it in there and, but it’s just something … Yeah, you’ve got to change that way because obesity will kill you. You can’t get too big [crosstalk 00:45:26]- Dr. Sameer Puri: Oh, yeah. Yes, sir. Shaun Keating: … heart pumps and all that. I hear it. Dr. Sameer Puri: Yes, sir. Shaun Keating: Well, have to cut this part. No, we don’t cut anything. We’re one take. That’s how we do things here. Dude, I thank you. I can’t thank you enough for coming on again. I think it’s been awesome. I don’t think we talked … We talked a little bit about dentistry, but hey, this is my show. We can do whatever we want. We’re the sponsor. Dr. Sameer Puri: Exactly. Exactly. I’m happy to talk anything. I’ve talked dentistry for 20+ years. Shaun Keating: I know. Dr. Sameer Puri: I can talk that or I can talk something else. Shaun Keating: Exactly. Dude, I remember when you had that one, you had a Shelby. Remember that back in the day? Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah. Shelby Cobra. Shaun Keating: That was so bad. Then you had that big- Dr. Sameer Puri: That was a- Shaun Keating: … seven series- Dr. Sameer Puri: … fun car Shaun Keating: … BMW. You’ve always been into cars, too. I love that. Dr. Sameer Puri: I’ve always been into cars. Yes, but let’s just leave it at that. I’ve blown enough money on cars that we don’t need to talk about it. Shaun Keating: Oh, I hear you. And your big thing, you were always So Cal Sam. Southern California Sameer. Dr. Sameer Puri: That’s right. Shaun Keating: So Cal Sam, baby. But now I think [crosstalk 00:46:31] you’re almost been there longer than you were here. Not yet? Dr. Sameer Puri: No. I was in L.A. 30+ years. We’ve moved here in 2011. So, it’s eight years. Shaun Keating: Yeah, okay. Well, dang, dude. That’s so aw- Congratulations on all your success in Scottsdale. Dr. Sameer Puri: Same with you. Same with you. It’s always good talking to you because you’ve always had the best attitude and you guys just treat your customers well. So good to see just a long standing, happy marriage, and just success. So, thank you, Shaun. It’s always a pleasure to talk to you. Shaun Keating: That’s so awesome. God bless you and your family. We’ll have you on again. We’ll talk about some new things coming up and dude, get a big, nasty case and send it, like a full upper lower, at least a full upper something. Just scan that son of a gun, send it to me. I’ll do it at no charge. I just want to have you put that in the mouth. And then you guys got so many people, it’s all about content, so they’ll, “Hey, who did that?” “Keating.” Dr. Sameer Puri: Yeah, absolutely. Shaun Keating: Maybe so- Dr. Sameer Puri: We’ll have to set … I will absolutely set it up. Done. Shaun Keating: I would love to do that. Tough one and we’ll blow you away. You know how we do it, but I want to do it just so I can say, “Hey, I did one for Sameer on a scan. We did it.” Do it on a Tuesday. Scan it to me and let’s seat it on Thursday because I’ll just do it that night and the next day stack it and everything, and I’ll overnight it to you, and you’ll have it, dude. I say, man, I love it. Just do all your treatment plan, and get it all dialed in. We can do temps or we can do whatever- Dr. Sameer Puri: Done. Shaun Keating: … for you, but let’s do a Tuesday/Thursday- Dr. Sameer Puri: Done deal. Shaun Keating: … thing and put it online and we’ll freaking blow people away. I’ll get me a bunch of customers out of it. Dr. Sameer Puri: Done deal. Shaun Keating: Ah, I love you, man. Hey, Sameer, thanks again, dude. Dr. Sameer Puri: Thanks brother. Shaun Keating: Good talking to you. Dr. Sameer Puri: You guys have a good one. All right, bless you guys. Take care. Shaun Keating: All right then. Later, dude. Bye-bye. Dr. Sameer Puri: Thanks. Host: Thanks for joining us on the Dental Up podcast show this week. 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